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Jobs Bills are not Jobs Bills After all ...
Snag by Pat Darnell | July 22, 2012 | Bryan TX

Mark A. Brown I looked into this. I got tired of righties telling me that the Republican House has put out 30 jobs bills that are stalled in the Senate because of Harry Reid. I finally got a rightie to give me the list (it's on Congressman Ryan's website) and I looked up each and every one. These are not jobs bills. In fact, many of them are job killers. I posted my findings elsewhere but it is a very long post. I'd post it here but I am not sure of the limitations of these comment fields. Any suggestions on how I could post it here or where I could put it that I can link to (I don't have a website)?
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Liz Hay Tapping my foot...well???
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Mark A. Brown OK. I don't know if this will work, but here goes.
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TheObama Teoli Liz, I hate to tell ya my friend, but your poor foot is going to get tired.
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TheObama Teoli ‎Kevin Feeney, would you like to provide any examples? Surely with the daily concern you show for the unemployment rate, you must have some information about the party that you vote for.
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Mark A. Brown Apparently there is an 8,000 character limit to the comment fields. I'll have to post it in parts.
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TheObama Teoli This is going to be good!
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Liz Hay Now my foot will start going in circles...maybe hide behind the other one...or shoot out and try to trip a Dem...Bring it on Kevin!
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Mark A. Brown Part One

OK. I checked them all out. Only a handful of them might be considered jobs bills. Almost every single one of them is designed to roll back loads of environmental protections and pet peeves the Republicans have had for years. It's a full fledged attack on the EPA and everything they stand for. Basically, they are givaways to industry in exchange for potential widespread environmental disaster. Jobs are a tertiary consideration. if at all.

H.RES.72 - Review of Federal Regulations

Directing certain standing committees to inventory and review existing, pending, and proposed regulations and orders from agencies of the Federal Government, particularly with respect to their effect on jobs and economic growth.

While this is probably not a bad idea, it is not a jobs bill. Changing regulations that it turns up might be considered jobs bills but most llikely the report will get done and moulder on a shelf somewhere.

H.R. 872 - Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act of 2011

Had a good laugh over that one. This is a bill to prohibit the EPA from requiring a permit to dump pesticides in the waterways. Jobs bill? Really? LOL!

H.R. 910 - Energy Tax Prevention Act

Prohibits the EPA from regulating, taking action regarding, or even considering the emission of greenhouse gases to address climate change.

H.J. RES 37 - Constitutional Amendment - Requires marriage in the United States to consist only of a legal union of a man and a woman.

Jobs bill? Really?

H.J.RES.37 - Disapproval of FCC's Net Neutrality Regulations

LOL! A bill to express Congress' disapproval of something, a jobs bill? So, if passed, this will create jobs? Are these righties nuts or what?

H.R. 2018 - Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act

Essentially prohibits the EPA from revising the water pollution standards for a state if the state doesn't agree with the EPA that it would be necessary.

H.R. 1315 - Consumer Financial Protection Safety and soundness Improvement Act of 2011

Ammends Dodd-Frank Bill regarding rules for running the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. A 2/3 majority vote can set aside any new rule, require a commission to head the bureau instead of a single director (no more than 2 members of that commission to be of the same party), time limits for petitions to stay regulations, etc.

Scabbed on to the end of this bill is the termination of the FHS Refinance Program that helps people in trouble with their mortgages.

Jobs bill? I don't think so.

H.R. 2587 - Protecting Jobs From Government Interference Act

Bars the NLRB from ordering an employer to close, relocate, or transfer employment under any circumstances.

This stems from the labor union lawsuit that was filed against Boeing charging that they violated Federal law by retaliating against the union for striking (a Federal crime). The NLRB is supposed to uphold Federal law so they asked for a stay on the move until the issue was decided. It became a mote point when the union reached an agreement with Boeing (THROUGH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING) and withdrew their lawsuit. This Bill will effectively prevent the NLRB from upholding Federal law.

Jobs bill? The outcome would have been either jobs in Washington or jobs in South Carolina, not no jobs. With this bill companies could violate Federal law with impunity and continue driving wages in the country to the bottom.

H.R. 2401 - Transparency in Regulatory Analysis of Impacts on the Nation Act

This is essentially an attempt to stall and/or gut the coming changes in EPA air pollution standards. The net effect being to allow industry to continue to pollute at will.

Industry claims it will be too expensive to comply. This is what they say for every new rule but so far has been historically proven that most of these claims turn out to be a false claims. The losses in public health due to the pollution outweigh the costs to comply to the regulations. In fact, a study conducted by the University of Massachusetts, Amherst shows that there will be a net increase of 1,457,885 direct and indirect jobs in the pollution controls and new generation capacity complying with the new EPA standards. The new jobs and health benefits from the new EPA standards provide $4 to $8 dollars benefit for every dollar invested in compliance.

This looks like a jobs and people killer bill to me.
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Mark A. Brown Part Two

H.R. 2681 - Cement Sector Regulatory Relief Act

This bill extends the time to comply with new EPA pollution regulations for the cement industry. Although cement plants are one of the heaviest air pollutors and the biggest source of mercury pollution, cement is essential for construction however. In the current economic atmosphere I can agree that giving them a little more time to spread out the costs of compliance is not something I would object too as long as the compliance is done.

H.R 2250 - EPA Regulatory Relief Act

Sorry but this is not a jobs bill. All this bill does is rescind the regulations governing commercial boilers and incinerators. It would allow your local neighborhood trash burners to freely burn, plastic, tires, solvents, oil sludge, or whatever with no oversight or restrictions.

H.R. 2273 - Coal Residuals Reuse and Management Act

This removes restrictions on coal ash dumps. This is some pretty toxic stuff. This bill would allow this stuff to freely blow in the wind, seep into the water supplies, and occasionally flood a community when one of their neglected dikes breaks on a pond.

Jobs bill? I don't think so.

H.R. 3094 - Workforce Democracy and Fairness Act

Yet another bald-faced attack on unions. The NLRB is set up to protect worker's rights and has recently passed rulings (finally) which sought to curtail the employer's heavy handed tactics to delay and obstruct the formation of a union. This bill is to rescind those efforts and bring us once again back to the emplyer intimidation and obstruction of the past and allow them to drag out the union election process for months to years while wearing down the potential union members.

Not a jobs bill but an anti-union bill

H.R. 3010 - Regulatory Accountability Act

An unneeded overhaul of the 65 year old Administrative Procedure Act which injects Congress into a more active role in rules and regulations formation. This allows Congress to inject it's foot-dragging incompetence into the process of creating regulations potentially extending implementation of ANY legislation additional months to years. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data ( ) shows that only 0.3% of layoffs in 2010 were caused by government regulations anyway. The righties want you to believe it causes 90% of the layoffs though. They want to remove all regulations and stall new regulations to increase profits at the expense of everyone's health and livelihood. As if Congress didn't have enough to do already, let's get them deeply involved in the minutia of implementing the bills they pass too.

Not a jobs bill.

H.R 527 - Regulatory Flexibility Improvements Act

LOL! This one ammends the previous Regulatory Accountability Act to include economic impact statements to each new regulation. Yeah that ought to speed things up. With this bill and the previous bill that ought to bring Congress down to passing 4 or 5 bills a year and spending the rest of the time debating over the regulations to implement them.

H.R. 10 - REINS Act

More involvement of Congress in rule-making. This is meant to ceed more executive power to Congress. Any regulation that has a $100 million dollar or more economic impact must be approved by both chambers of Congress. Currently they can already quash a regulation by a joint resolution of disapproval. Now we could further bog down Congress with literally hundreds or thounds of new things to debate and vote on.

I think these last thre bills taken together would be definate job killers. Congress would be so bogged down they would have little time left to work on legislation to keep the country running let alone helping produce jobs.

H.R. 1633 - Farm Dust Regulation Prevention Act

This one's really hilarious. It prevents the EPA from making any regulations controlling dust created by farming operations. This dispite the fact that the EPA has no plans to make any such regulations. How much taxpayer money did the House spend pushing THAT one through.

Not a job bill and a complete waste of taxpayer dollars and Congress' time.

H.R 1837 - Sacramento-San Joaquin Valley Water Reliability Act

The continued California fight over rights to water. This bill attempts to redefine anadromous fish flows and repeal the hard-fought San Joaquin River Restoration Settlement Act (which provided a balanced distribution of water for farmers and fish). What it boils down to is who gets more right to water, farming and industry or nature and fish.

Maybe important for California but not for the rest of the country. I suppose if we kill off all the fish they could produce more farm jobs to exploit migrant workers with.

H.R. 2087 - Land in Accomack County, Virginia

Finally, a jobs bill! A bill to remove land use restrictions on a 32 acre parcel adjacent to a NASA airstrip in Accomack County, Virginia. This wouuld allow the county to build a technology and research facility. Table 2. Reason for layoff: Extended mass layoff events, separations, and initial claimants for unem
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TheObama Teoli Reading through these scares the living shit out of me for if Romney wins!
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Mark A. Brown Part Three

H.R. 9 - Small Business Tax cut Act

Oh come on, it might look good on the surface, a 20% deduction of a small businesses income. Then you get to the part where they describe a small business as a business that employs less than 500 people. Get real. That includes Oprah Winfrey, George Soros, and Donald Trump for crying out loud. They need to include a criteria for income levels first.

H.R. 1904 - SE Arizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act

This is a land swap. The Federal government gets 5,344 acres of land owned by Resolution Copper and Resolution Copper gets 2,422 acres to mine for copper.

This would create mining jobs so I would have to say it's a jobs bill. How many is unknown and the trade-offs to the environment and the indians is questionable and also unknown.

H.R. 4402 - National Strategic and Critical minerals Production Act

Deems that a domestic mine that will provide strategic and critical minerals to be called an "infrastructure project."

How anyone can consider this a jobs bill is beyond me

H.R 3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

This bill would eliminate the per-country numerical limitations for employment-based visas and increase the numerical cap for family-based immigrants

Republican Senator Grassley has had a hold on this bill up until he struck a deal with Senator Chuck Schummer a little over a week ago. It is expected that another Senator will now put a hold on it. There is apparently a line of Senators waiting to put a hold on the bill. Don't expect it to go anywhere soon

H.R. 1230 - Restarting American Offshore Leasing act now

The reason this is being held up is because it is nothing more than giving the bum's rush to start up drilling in particular lease holdings in the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic. These are areas with deep water issues that exacerbated the Deepwater Horizon disaster. The rules regarding safety of operations in those areas have not been fully addressed yet. Key is the as yet unestablished methods for dealing with another similar spill. The righties don't care. Drill, baby drill!

You could say this is a jobs bill as it will put drill riggers to work

H.R. 1229 - Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act

More bum's rush to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling. Much like the previous bill. Puts a limit of 30 for approval of permits to drill.

This could also be termed a jobs bill in that it employs drill riggers

H.R. 1231 - Reversing President Obama's Offshore Moratorium Act

Yet another bill for the same thing as the previous 2. I suppose that you would have to call this and the previous two bills really only one bill. It would be a jobs bill though, but not times 3.

H.R. 2021 - Jobs and Energy Permitting Act

Gives Shell oil a free pass to pollute the air at will in the offshore drilling areas around Alaska. Apparently, freedom to pollute the air creates jobs. Just different jobs than those who manufacture and install the pollution abatement equipment. So this is a bill to create dirty jobs instead of clean jobs.

H.R. 1938 - North American-Made Energy Security Act

Essentially a bill to expedite the Keystone pipeline project. This is not really a jobs bill as building the pipeline creates jobs (albeit only a few thousand to build it then only a few hundred remaining to run it after the builders have gone) not speeding up the building.

H.R. 3408 - Protecting Next Generation Energy Security (PIONEERS) Act

A bill to remove many pesky regulations restricting oil shale development, open up drilling in ANWR, open up offshore drilling in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico, and force the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline. In otherwords, a standard collection of the GOP's energy wish lists. Damn the torpedos. Drill baby drill! We've got to sell that stuff to other countries and enrich the oil companies.

H.R. 2842 - Hydropower Development and Rural Jobs Act

A bill to exempt small hydropower installations from review under the National Environmental Policy Act. This would be for hydropower projects in ditches & canals. I have mixed feelings on this. This seems like a land use planning problem in that without any review nobody would be looking at the big picture for the impact of a large number of units, some even questionably built, on a given area. The consequences of uncontrolled proliferation could be detremental to the area but nobody would know it until the problems started cropping up. I much prefer oversight and planning.

H.R. 2578 - Conservation and Economic Growth Act

A collection of 14 bills regarding roll-back of many environmental protections on numerous wilderness areas and protected lands. Examples being allowingn timber harvesting in the protected Tongrass Wilderness, increasing grazing on protected public lands, opening protected beach areas to dune buggies, among many. There is also a portion that turns over a 100 mile strip of all borders to complete control of the Department of Homeland Security, who has stated they don't need that control. This is not a jobs bill it is just an excuse to roll back restrictions on protected lands.

H.R. 4480 - Domestic Energy and Jobs Act

Another collection of bills designed to gut the Clean Air Act, emasculate the EPA, open public lands to oil drilling (when they already are sitting on73 million acres, 45 million of which is inactive), inhibit the use of the Stratigic Petroleum Reserve, and many other roll-backs of all kinds of environmental protections. Basically a giveaway to the oil industry. As we all know, gas prices are determined by the world market so even brining in loads of oil from public lands will have little effect on gas prices.

H. Con. Res. 112 - Budget for Fiscal Year 2013

Paul Ryan's laughable and horribly destructive Federal Budget proposal. Enough has already been said about this. This is a straight out attack on Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare. This is a job, people, and economy killing bill.

H.Con. Res. 34 - Budget for Fiscal Year 2012

Ryan's previous laughable job, people, and economy killing bill.

H.R. 2560 - Cut, Cap, and Balance

Harry Reid said it best, "One of the worst pices of legislation ever placed on the floor of the United States Senate." This was a joke with absolutely no chance of passing, let alone being signed into law.
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TheObama Teoli ‎Tom Jones, read through these and give it your best shot. Paul Sanis, this ought to be good. Thank You Mark for providing the FACTS!
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Mark A. Brown No problem. I question EVERYTHING. It's how I was raised
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TheObama Teoli That's a good way to be!
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Liz Hay Thanks for all this Mark.
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Patricia Williams I have so much respect for people like you Mark who taqke a great deal of time to actually investigte and research the facts.. It would be great if you would put it all in a note, so we can all have access to it. Or TheObama Teoli on your group page. This is the time to do it before the election... I am with The Obamma scares the crap [ out of me if Romney is elected...There is a whole lot more to be afraid of also...
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Tom Jones Only the private sector creates jobs that actually produce goods, if the govt want jobs created the only thing it can really do is set an environment conducive to job creation.
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